Its all good, I can ask people to post in the right forum because I'm not allowed to move threads since V360 switched to this new forum setup even though I'm listed as a moderator, they stripped the moderator powers from me that I had for 3 years under the old forums. I think its there way of pushing me out without having to be straight up and say it to me...About the schematics, I would give them now but I'm not at home and only have my cell phone. Tomorrow I have a court deposition all day so if no one has helped you by the time I get home then I will be happy to hook you up with the raven schematics.