Shift Key???

I wanted to know if there was any info regarding a possible shift key in the future bacause I was planning on sending in my other black stock controller for a mail in service at XMODs who are currently running shift keys in their mods and was just wondering on the possible shift key status here at Viking before I send it in because it would save me $30 bucks! Thanks
 

NYjetsNY1

Active Member
LiOnHeArT24 said:
I wanted to know if there was any info regarding a possible shift key in the future bacause I was planning on sending in my other black stock controller for a mail in service at XMODs who are currently running shift keys in their mods and was just wondering on the possible shift key status here at Viking before I send it in because it would save me $30 bucks! Thanks

Possibly. There is already a small shift key ability.

Basically it is for a tactical switch. When you hold RT it is semi-auto or full-auto, depending on the gun. However, when you hold the tactical switch, it will allow RT to be rapid-fire.

There is no LT-RT shift key persay, but not really needed too much. Is it really that important to buy an XMOD? You would lose dropshots-turbo knifes, everything.

Why don't you assign rapid-fire to a tactical switch or jitter to one, and assign rapid-fire to RT / Jitter to RT? IK it would be useful to have RT-LT shift key, but really is it worth downgrading + spending $30?
 
NYjetsNY1 said:
LiOnHeArT24 said:
I wanted to know if there was any info regarding a possible shift key in the future bacause I was planning on sending in my other black stock controller for a mail in service at XMODs who are currently running shift keys in their mods and was just wondering on the possible shift key status here at Viking before I send it in because it would save me $30 bucks! Thanks

Possibly. There is already a small shift key ability.

Basically it is for a tactical switch. When you hold RT it is semi-auto or full-auto, depending on the gun. However, when you hold the tactical switch, it will allow RT to be rapid-fire.

There is no LT-RT shift key persay, but not really needed too much. Is it really that important to buy an XMOD? You would lose dropshots-turbo knifes, everything.

Why don't you assign rapid-fire to a tactical switch or jitter to one, and assign rapid-fire to RT / Jitter to RT? IK it would be useful to have RT-LT shift key, but really is it worth downgrading + spending $30?


I guess your right Jets! I mean money is not a problem, a shift key would be more useful and comfortable for my style of play just because I have difficulties targeting all the tac switches and it slows down my reaction time, especially the two bottom ones in the back. I find myself having to re-position my hands every time I want to jitter or drop shot and it becomes very inconsistent and a little frustrating! Maybe I just need to get used to them, I'm a former Hammer owner and used to the stealth type of controller so tac switches are new to me lol! I just can't seem to find that sweet spot in my hand positioning to target all tacs with easy and feels like I can't fully take advantage of all the mods available to me :(
 

GJUnLeAsHeD

New Member
LiOnHeArT24 said:
NYjetsNY1 said:
LiOnHeArT24 said:
I wanted to know if there was any info regarding a possible shift key in the future bacause I was planning on sending in my other black stock controller for a mail in service at XMODs who are currently running shift keys in their mods and was just wondering on the possible shift key status here at Viking before I send it in because it would save me $30 bucks! Thanks

Possibly. There is already a small shift key ability.

Basically it is for a tactical switch. When you hold RT it is semi-auto or full-auto, depending on the gun. However, when you hold the tactical switch, it will allow RT to be rapid-fire.

There is no LT-RT shift key persay, but not really needed too much. Is it really that important to buy an XMOD? You would lose dropshots-turbo knifes, everything.

Why don't you assign rapid-fire to a tactical switch or jitter to one, and assign rapid-fire to RT / Jitter to RT? IK it would be useful to have RT-LT shift key, but really is it worth downgrading + spending $30?


I guess your right Jets! I mean money is not a problem, a shift key would be more useful and comfortable for my style of play just because I have difficulties targeting all the tac switches and it slows down my reaction time, especially the two bottom ones in the back. I find myself having to re-position my hands every time I want to jitter or drop shot and it becomes very inconsistent and a little frustrating! Maybe I just need to get used to them, I'm a former Hammer owner and used to the stealth type of controller so tac switches are new to me lol! I just can't seem to find that sweet spot in my hand positioning to target all tacs with easy and feels like I can't fully take advantage of all the mods available to me :(
Yes that is hard to get used to if u do find anything plz tell me i have the same problem :? but i do love the controller so its not a deal breaker at all xD :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 

s1wheel4

New Member
I can actually share some experience with both controllers...or in fact, a lot of modded controllers. I just bought a Viking and I'm really more excitd about the possibilities currently with the Viking than any other controller I've ever had. I just hope it's not a pipe dream and we continue to get updates to software and firmware so that the Viking will continue to grow as our games continue to evolve.

I guess I should give a little background here before I ramble on too much and get everyone confused. I've had all kinds of modded controllers in the past. Some were mod kits that I installed myself and some I bought the whole controller with the mod already installed. I've even had that Intenseafire mod preinstalled in a contoller (which never really worked right for me) and mod kits I bought from people over seas. I'm not here to bash any one...I think all have their place; although, I would say the Viking is the only one with the "possibility" to be the one controller to fit all niches.

On to my story...

I've had 3 XMOD controllers. One that I bought last year (I considered this to be one of my best rapid fire controllers) and 2 that I bought from them recently. The most recent XMOD contoller I bought had their 20 mode rapid fire, mode switch, jump/drop shot capabilities...all the bells and whistles and add-on mods. The XMOD is a very good controller and I do like it a lot, but the only draw backs that I can say with the XMOD is that it's difficult to figure out which mode, submode, and feature set is actually activated because not all modes work with every game. The XMOD and other complex modded controllers can even work differently depending on which part of the game is being played. This makes it very, very difficult to realize what's going on with the conroller. Even with the LED indicators, it's difficult to tell what's happening especially with the submodes and feature sets because it's always the same color. The XMOD controller can be a little "squirrely" at times where it seems to get stuck in a mode, but it has only happened a couple of times. It might have even been operator error. I can say all the macros/moves are great quality. The Jitter, Rapid Fire, Akimbo, and Drop...hell, all of them are great. They do exactly what they are supposed to without question (when in the right mode) and without any problems or funky after effects. I especially like the Jitter modes on the XMOD. I would most definitely consider purchasing with them again if the need arises. With the Viking, these issues that I described above are not a problem.

I can honestly say that the Viking controller can do pretty much everything that any modded controller I've ever had can do. At least, that's my experience with it at this point in time. I really haven't seen anything the Viking can't quite do yet...or at least, doesn't have the potential to do. There's not much customization you can do with the other modded controllers except for maybe a different rapid fire speed. Also, the other modded controllers I'ved had/seen do not have all the special macros that the Viking community has come up with. Try finding an auto hold sniper breath or a super turbo knife with another modded controller...it doesn't exist.

The Viking adds so much more functionality and customization that it's not even in the same class as anything else I've ever seen. You can customize almost every button on the Viking; even down to changing the LEDs to luminated different colors depending on the macro/move used which is just insane. I can even pretty much replicate the shift function or at least get it where it works about the same way...it's not exact, but good enough for me. Hopefully future software/firmware updates will include this functionality with the Viking. I can see a slight use for "true" shift functionality, but you can get around it.

With other mod chips or modded controllers you're basically stuck with the same set of moves or macros time after time...if XBL or the game manufacturer ever patches or blocks them then your stuck with them...working or not. I will say that there's a lot of work and trial & error involved here with the Viking. I will continue to test and refine the macros to find what works best for me. I have some work to do with the macros that I've chosen to figure out what works best for my style and my particular choice of weapons/attachments, but honestly what other controller can you say all this about?

Although it might sound like it here, I'm not one of those fanboys who jumps behind a company or product and thinks it can do no wrong. If it sucks, I'll tell you and every one else, but my experience has been more than positive with the Viking controller. Yes, it is expensive, but far worth the investmestment. I can't tell you how much money I've spent on mods and modded controllers...and I stil wasn't happy with them. I've spent far more than the price of one of these Vikings several times over. I just wish this thing was out a couple of years ago. I can mod my own controllers...I can add extra buttons, mod chips, paint, shells, different joysticks and all that kind of stuff...I'm good at electronics and professionally trained. What I can't do is replicate what this Viking can do and that amazes me.

The more I work with the Viking, the more I'll find out it's limitations and if it will be my final modded controller. If I can make an suggestion here: if the bottom tac switches are a big deal you can always just add in extra pages of macros where you only have a few programmed and you can easily change them out with the top tac switches. Most of my bottom tac switches are the same macro on every page, so I will always know what's selected in my line up. I even have a page with no macros except the page forward/back commands to set it in the lineup and make the page selectable. If something isn't working right I just go to the non-macro page and can still play as regular until I can sort things out. The tac switches do take some time to get used to and I just keep my finger over the one I'm using the most at the moment. I doubt I could be as fast with the tac switches as I am with the regular X,Y,A,B controller buttons, but hovering over them helps speed up with the selection. I have the LEDs for each page in different colors so I know which page I'm on. BTW, XMOD has the tac buttons for their big all inclusive mod. A few of my other controllers have these also so I think this is what everyone is just about going to if you what extra buttons.

This is just my $0.02. I'm by no means a professional here at anything; nor am I bashing any controller, company, or individual. I have spent a ton of money on modded controllers over the past couple of years and I hope this comparison is useful to someone. If this post offends any one what so ever...my applogies in advance and please disregard my statements as personal opinon which is subjective to my own interpretations.


On a side note, I want to send a positive word out to the people who have created and posted macros in the library. They have not only helped me understand how to write my own macros, but they helped me understand how the Viking works and you helped me make the most out of controller in a very short amount of time that I've had it. You guys are truely awesome! Keep them coming! I cannot wait for the new software and firmware to come out to see what else this adds. Any way a bribe with coupus amounts of alcohol will help? Well, on second thought...maybe not the best thing to do do when writting code.


Hit me up on XBL: gamertag: Death1Roll
 
Hey s1wheel4 thanks for sharing some insights on your experiences with other modded controllers, i've had some of my own and I can honestly say that none of them where even on the Viking's level and wasn't trying to compare the two controllers! The thing that caught my eye with the XMOD was the shift key but like Jets said and after your review, I would be downgrading so i've decided to hold off on buying an XMOD and just sticking with my Viking. Like GJUnLeAsHeD, I too love the controller I was just giving Jets reasoning to why a shift key would enhance/improve my (and I'm sure others in this forum) style of game play! Like you mention above the possibilities for the Viking are endless and I just wanted to know if a shift key was one of them!
 

NYjetsNY1

Active Member
If any extra features to be added in the future after the loop settings, this would be it first so we'll see guys.
 
NYjetsNY1 said:
If any extra features to be added in the future after the loop settings, this would be it first so we'll see guys.

Thanks for all your help Jets
and even though i'm getting a little quicker hitting that tac switch with jitters my fingers are still crossed for this feature :)
 
modded matt said:
a shift key? on a viking...you are joking right?


Not really lol, or a macro/feature that would let both triggers carry a macro and still act as an on/off at the same time, which is probably still the same thing as the shift key lol but then again i'm not tech savy at all so I have no idea what the possibilities are and are not and based on your reaction this doesn't look like it's possible which is no biggie, just though it would have been a sweet feature!
 
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